omg the racism 

@ArtistMarciaX @MoMartin "What happens just about every time, in one form or another, is someone asking me to consider not writing or making work about Black/Indigenous people. Make the concepts about the human experience." And I was like... do people even realize what they're saying when they go on like this 😑 Congrats jackasses, for at least making it clear you don't think BIPOC are fully human.

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"I exist, I have a right to exist, and I won't put anyone else in the center of my universe that can kill me.

"Basically. because that's what white supremacy wants, is for my soul to die trying to be something I'm not.

"I have to be stubborn. It gets a bit easier for me with age.

"I also know that respectability doesn't work.

"Beauty isn't real.

"And that nothing I do will ever be enough.

"So fuck them."

- @ArtistMarciaX

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D'you ever realize with @ArtistMarciaX you're in the presence of an artist and scholar who will be talked about for ages to come and you're going to be able to say you knew them and socialized with them? Like, squeed over their selfies and shit? And if you're lucky enough and long-lived enough historians and documentary makers may come interview you for a human interest angle on the artist?

All I'm saying is, we all need to store up our embarrassing/silly Marcia anecdotes. For history.

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re: omg the racism 

@lj_writes @MoMartin it’s the hyper visibility of whiteness being rendered invisible within their own mental processes.

@lj_writes @CartoonBangover is gonna get interviewed and talk about the time i mentioned bookers prime peen & stroke

@CartoonBangover Well I guess we know what the title of the documentary is going to be. "Peen & Stroke: The Life and Times of @ArtistMarciaX "

You covered all that in a *day*? In text form? It must have been an absolute outpouring of ideas and thoughts in so short a time! @MoMartin why did you work @ArtistMarciaX so hard 😂

@lj_writes @ArtistMarciaX In retrospect, reading over this, I spent too much time on the question of white people and the work. Like, that was the question the discussion grew out of, "What do you do with the white gaze as an afro-indigenous artist" but if I were to do it again, or do it over, I'd ask more about the themes and ideas of the work itself.

That sounds awfully like @MoMartin is inviting @ArtistMarciaX to do a second interview...👀

I think it was worth talking about the white gaze for that particular interview, though, because this exchange was amazing:

@MoMartin : How do you define the white gaze to yourself?
@ArtistMarciaX : The white gaze is one in which I feel looked at, vs being seen.

I have seldom seen such a succinct and visceral expression of what that experience is like, and am amazed at both of you for drawing out that response and giving it.

@lj_writes @MoMartin Im gassed.

Bc i re read this part and wasn’t sure if it translated well

@ArtistMarciaX @MoMartin "Translated," as in would you say the equivalent phrase in Spanish has different connotations? Or maybe I'm thinking of a different sense of translation?

@lj_writes @MoMartin whenever mo is down, I’m down.

He needs a podcast honestly bc journalism these days could never

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